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Steve Horwitz is a professor of economics at St. Lawrence University in Canton, New York, and Wikipedia cites him as one of the main defenders of fractional reserve banking. So let’s have a look at his arguments. (Horwitz’s articleWikipedia)

Horwitz’s first claim is that fractional reserve does not create money because any money deposited in one bank must have come from another bank (or indeed from the above mentioned first bank). Thus while £X deposited in bank Y does enable bank Y to create far more than £X worth of money, that is cancelled out by the fact that the bank from which the £X was taken has to rein in money.

Horwitz makes this point in the five paragraphs starting “I don’t want to rehearse…”.  And it takes him well over 600 words to make the point! Talk about hot air!

However Horwitz’s above point does not stop commercial banks expanding the money supply in boom, nor does it prevent them and their customers destroying money in a recession, that is, deleveraging. In other words Horwitz’s point does not destroy one of the main criticisms of fractional reserve, namely that it promotes instability.

As to the way commercial banks engage in the above “instability promotion”, most opponents of fractional reserve probably know how this is done, but I’ll briefly spell them out anyway. First, banks do not always make full use of their reserves: witness the current huge excess reserves they are currently sitting on. In this scenario it is clearly nonsense to claim that reserves themselves would pose a restraint a sudden expansion in bank lending.

Second, the reality is that central banks expand the monetary base (i.e. reserves) to make possible an increased desire by commercial banks’ to lend.  Reason is that if central banks don’t do this, they lose control of interest rates. Put another way, central banks are monopoly suppliers of bank reserves, and as it explains the economics text books, a monopoly can control the price of its product or the volume supplied, but not both.

 

Central bank policy is the root problem

Horwitz’s next point (para starting “Injections of new currency) is that in view of the above “inability” of fractional reserve to create money, the only real source of new money is the central bank (when it increases the monetary base or bank reserves). Good point. In other words given an increased desire to lend by commercial banks, it is the above mentioned tendency of central banks to accommodate this desire that is the root of the problem (2).

But it must be remembered that if central banks don’t “accommodate”, interest rates will rise (as intimated above) which is traditionally seen as undesirable. In fact it is not undesirable: had the increased desire to borrow and stoke asset prices prior to the crunch (or the 1929 crash) been thwarted by increased interest rates, those two disasters would never have happened or at least would have been mitigated.

And that raises an obvious objection, namely that it might seem that those increased interest rates would stifle economic activity. The answer to that objection is that, as advocated in Positive Money’s submission to the Independent Banking Commission and as advocated by Modern Monetary Theory, demand should be regulated by adjusting net government spending, not by interest rate adjustments. Had the latter policy been in operation prior to the crunch, consumers would have directed less of their spending power towards boosting house prices, and more towards more mundane forms of spending.

 

Excess demand for money

Horwitz then advocates free banking, and he tells us that “From a monetary-theoretic perspective, if free banks create more liabilities when the demand to hold those liabilities has increased, the results will not be inflationary, rather this warranted increase in the total money supply will prevent a deflationary excess demand for money from setting in.”

The flaw in that argument is that Horwitz does not seem to have got the difference between commercial bank created money and central bank created money. His latter point is perfectly valid in respect of central bank created money. That is, given an “excess demand for money”, the problem can be solved by increasing the quantity of central bank money.

But there is a big problem in applying this idea to commercial bank money, namely that for every extra pound of such money, there is an extra pound of debt – or “negative money”. Put another way, increasing commercial bank money by £X does not increase private sector net financial assets by so much as one penny!

Incidentally advocates of Modern Monetary Theory are well versed in the latter point, except that they tend to use different phraseology: central bank money is referred to as “vertical money” and commercial bank money is called “horizontal money” (1.).

 

Reserve ratios under free banking

Horwitz then seems to lose all contact with reality when he tells us that “in a free banking system, the reserve ratio is determined by the banks themselves”, and “If free banks see an opportunity to safely reduce their reserve ratios to enhance their profitability….”

He does not seem to have noticed that over the last decade or so banks have taken ever increasing risks  in the knowledge that if the risks don’t pay off, taxpayers come to the rescue. That is, banks are far too irresponsible to be allowed to determine their own reserve or capital ratios.

Of course, if we dispensed with too big to fail banks, and replaced them with numerous smaller banks, then Horwitz’s point begins to make sense: the failure of one bank would possibly not matter. But we are a long way from that scenario at the moment.

 

Conclusion

The opponents of fractional reserve have very little to fear from one of the main advocates of fractional reserve, Prof Steve Horwitz.

 

References

1. E.g. see: http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=381

2. For more on this, see Steve Keen’s “Roving Cavaliers of Credit”: http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2009/01/31/therovingcavaliersofcredit/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • http://blog.russnelson.com/ Russ Nelson

    If you read further, you’ll find that Steve has posited that we have these large almost monopolistic banks because we have a large monopoly central bank. Get rid of the central bank, and the larger banks will find that their size is no longer sustainable.

    And if you read further still, you’ll find that Steve is not really pro-fractional-reserve banking, but is instead in favour of free banking, where banks either have a sane reserve, or else they go bankrupt. Unlike, say, other people, who think that fractional reserve banking is fraudulent and must be prohibited.

  • http://blog.russnelson.com/ Russ Nelson

    Also, I find it a little creepy when people invent a whole new terminology to talk about something, as if nobody who went before them had anything interesting to say. Reinvention of a field of study is the venue of cranks.

  • http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/ Ralph Musgrave

    Russ, I’ll take your point in turn starting with the idea that we have “large almost monopolistic banks because we have a large monopoly central bank..”.

    I don’t agree that it is central banks as such that encourage oversized commercial banks: economies of scale apart, it’s the too big to fail implicit subsidy that is the culprit. And when it comes to bank bail out decisions, the sums involved are so large that the decision is essentially a political one rather than a central bank decision. For example the UK’s prime minister and finance minister (Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling) at the height of the recent bank crisis were intimately involved in rescuing various banks. And in the US, Geither and other White House “inhabitants” were deeply involved in bank bail out decisions.

    That’s why Capitol Hill is crawling with bank funded lobbyists. Banks know where the real power lies.

    Re disposing of central banks altogether, I don’t favour that because the evidence is that stability has improved since the 1800s, when central banks did not exist and governments did not engage in what Steve Horwitz refers to as “other government interventions”. I’ve put a chart which shows this here: http://www.blogger.com/logout-redirect.g?blogID=2277215496195926573

    Re your second paragraph, I agree with the Steve that the “fraud” accusation against fractional reserve is a weak argument. I think I said as much on his blog, and I certainly did not cite this argument above.

    Re letting incompetent banks go bust, I’m all in favour of that. A policy of very much that sort is incorporated in the Positive Money submission to the Independent Banking Commission. That submission advocates a system under which where people WANT to act in a free market or commercial manner, they are free to put their money into so called “investment accounts”. And if the bank goes bust, they lose their money. At the same time, I think people have a right to a 100% safe account if they want. That is catered for under the above submission, but I don’t see it being catered for under a “wild west” unregulated, central bank free system.

  • http://none Bill Clarke

    Why does the money supply increase if money deposited in one bank is offset by the fact that it was originally borrowed from the banking system?

    A bank making a loan doesn’t necessarily have to rein in its money (call in loans)if its reserves are great enough.

    £X was taken has to rein in money.” Surely the fact that

  • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

    I just wrote an article about the arguments against our current monetary system, and the criticism surrounding fractional banking with fiat money.

    http://johanlinden.com/2011/08/monetary_system_fractional_banking/

    I would appreciate questions, answers and comments, so feel free to join the debate!

    • Simon

      The fact that debt is growing exponentially may sound alarming, but exponentially only means that it grows by a certain factor every year. If debt increases by 2% every year it is growing exponentially, but it is growing at a fairly low rate. It will take 35 years for that debt to double. The growth of debt is met by economic output, such as services, natural resources and production of goods which is constantly being added to the economy. So an exponentially growing debt will be met as long as people work. Increasing debt also means inflation or that the value of money/debt decreases. With an increasing population and economic growth there should be no problem with an increasing amount of money or debt as long as it increasing in harmony with other economic outputs such as houses, cars, or plates with food. In the long-run there will be a problem to produce an ever-increasing stream of those products, but that is an ecological problem and not a problem of the monetary system…

      The UK has about 100 times more money and associated debt compared to 55 years ago. The problem is most of this debt has gone on very expensive housing, and paying a lot more out in welfare and pensions. The debt and money growth has not been matched by a real increase in infrastructure, assets, productive business. I agree there has been some growth in real stuff in 55 years, but nothing like the amount to match money and debt growth. The biggest problems I see is that the benefits of technology are not shared, many countries in the West have ageing populations, fossil fuel supplies are getting more expensive and scarcer, and there is not enough work for everyone in an automated, globalised economy. The debt system is predicated on continuous growth and is now coming up against the constraints I have mentioned above. Reform of money, debt, and the way society and the economy interact is essential.

      • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

        What increase in money should we have had then? And how do you decide that?

        Since inflation been fair during most of this time it seems that the increase has been in harmoney with the economic growth.

        • Ben Dyson (Positive Money)

          @Johan – it might look that way at first but only if we ignore house prices. The fact that around 70% of bank lending (i.e. newly created money) goes directly into housing or commercial real estate, and we had three-fold increase in house prices over 10 years as a result, would suggest that the increase in money supply has been way beyond what we need.

          It’s not just a case of how much is created – it’s also crucial how that money is used. The banks have used it in the least productive manner possible.

        • Simon

          We trust private banks (wrongly as it turns out) to create the right amount of money and allocate it correctly. It has been mis-allocated as Ben says. Inflation ran at more than 20% some years in the 1970s, at nearly 10% in the early 1980s. In the 1970s at times people were desperate to get out of money and into anything which would hold value. Those days may be returning as banks and governments try to inflate the debt mountain away, hammering savers, and pensioners. Economnic growth is not having the same stock of housing, but ten times more expensive compared to 30 years ago with an associated debt increase.

      • Thomas

        The interest rate system is a very severe problem, exponential growth can never ever work in the long run, every exponential growth starts very slowly and goes off like a rocket after some time. In nature, cancer grows exponentially. And the interest rate system problem can not be avoided by just not going into exponentially growing debt. That would be the point of view of people who do not differ between a microeconomic and a macroeconomic point of view. Because, if total debt of society is not growing exponentially, money gets withdrawn from real economy (in other words, it gets hoarded) and that means more and more unemployment.

        Therefore there is the need for additional changes in the monetary system, the proposals of positive money are absolutely necessary, but there is a further important reform due in the monetary system in order to fix the interest rate system problem:

        http://www.webinformation.at/material/debtmoney.pdf

  • http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/ Ralph Musgrave

    Johan, I left a comment on your site and misspelt your name in the process. Sorry about that!

    • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

      Yes I saw that and was tempted to correct you, but that would have been a little bit too picky against an honest writer :)

  • http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/ Ralph Musgrave

    Johan, You ask what increase in money should we have and how do we decide that.

    The answer given by Positive Money in their submission to the Independent Banking Commission (if I’ve got this right) is to simply create new money and spend it into the economy in a recession (and/or cut taxes). I agree with that. Plus, from time to time, inflation will get excessive, in which case I suggest do the opposite, that is raise taxes and rein in money.

    As to who decides when to implement the above policy, any independent committee of economists would do. E.g. the existing Bank of England Monetary Policy Committee would do. But alternatively in recent years various “fiscal responsibility committees” have sprung up round the world. E.g. there is the “Office for Budget Responsibility” in the UK. They would do equally well.

    Also the above “create money and spend it” policy is advocated by Modern Monetary Theory. So we have two groups of economists reaching the same conclusion for different reasons. That lends strength to the conclusion.

    • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

      Ralph, recession is a fairly flexible word, which can mean different things for different actors of the economy. Should we really have a commiittee subjectively inject money as they see fair? I think that may lead to similar problems.

      Shouldn’t a free market of some form decide all the major actions in the economy?

      • Ben Dyson (Positive Money)

        Personally I think there are big problems with the whole idea of trying to ‘manage’ the economy, and I think the Bank of England or the government have been fairly incompetent allround. What we currently have is certainly not a free market – we have bankers creating money via lending, incentivised by bonuses and commissions, and committees at the Bank of England and Treasury deciding to rescue banks, underwriting them (through the £85k guarantee), flood them with money (QE), lower or raise interest rates, with devastating effects for ordinary people.

        The reforms that we’re proposing actually significantly reduces the power of the Bank of England. The draft legislation rules out buying assets from the banks, and ensures that bad banks will fail.

        In the years after the crisis, you do need to inject some money, free of debt, as this is the only way that we’ll be able to shift the massive debt burden without completely destroying the economy. (If we try to ‘deleverage’ in the existing system the money supply will shrink, causing a recession and probably bringing down the banking system).

        However, as the economy stabilises, the amount of money injected each year will fall, as we’ll get to the point where any new money will feed through into inflation. So in the long run, we’d probably end up with a very nearly fixed money supply anyway.

        But in terms of actually making these changes, the authorities simply won’t agree to implement a fixed money supply, as they would lose their ability to ‘manage’ the economy. So we have to be realistic about what is politically feasible. Having a committee alter the money supply in response to inflation may not be ideal, but it’s still many times better than what we have today.

        • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

          Mr Dyson, “Having a committee alter the money supply in response to inflation may not be ideal, but it’s still many times better than what we have today.”

          In Sweden where I live the goal of “Bank of Sweden” is to keep the inflation (CPI) at 2% yearly. So you think I system like that is good and will work?

          • Ben Dyson (Positive Money)

            You would need to include house prices into the measure of inflation for a start.

            Which is likely to be more effective? A) A monetary policy committee who can monitor the rate of inflation and only increase the money supply when inflation isn’t accelerating, or B) leaving the money supply in the hands of banks who don’t monitor inflation, don’t pay any attention to the wider economy or house price bubbles and therefore increase the money supply at an average of 8% a year?

            We’re not looking for a ‘perfect’ system – we’re looking for a massive improvement on the current system, and something that has a reasonable chance of actually being implemented.

          • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

            Good point that we should change the way to calculate CPI and include things like house prices.

            However I don’t see why the system you are promoting should be better (oh well, should be great) in the end.

            How is that better than one of the following:

            A. Keep the money supply to fixed fraction of 2% increase a year. So everyone knows what the deal is.
            B. Using a precious metal standard (which is, interestingly, also increasing around 1.5-2% a year)

          • Ben Dyson (Positive Money)

            There’s a choice between:

            a) fixing the money supply (or fixing the growth rate of the money supply) and having inflation and deflation as productivity or resource scarcity changes, or
            b) allowing the money supply to grow or shrink and keeping prices relatively stable despite changes in productivity and resources.

            Keeping the growth rate at a fixed 2% isn’t a bad idea, but it means we will have to be happy with whatever level of deflation or inflation results from having a fixed money supply.

            However, we’ve got to consider the political reality. Before any government puts forward a significant reform to the banking system, they’ll run it past the Bank of England and the Financial Services Authority. If the proposal is for a fixed money supply, then the Bank of England will say “This doesn’t give us any room to respond to a recession or economic crisis”, and the plan will be dismissed. So we’ve got to go for something that is at least politically feasible, and adjusting the money supply in response to inflation is likely to be the most politically feasible proposal.

          • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

            However, we shouldn’t include the price of houses in CPI fully. That’s not a cost, the cost is the rent of the house. And rents have come down so the price of living in a house hasn’t increased that much.

          • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

            Thanks for your answer! I couldn’t “reply” on your latest note, so I write my question here.

            I understand your agenda with politician hard to convince about a totally new system.

            But let us say nothing happens with the current system until a major financial crash. Even bigger than the one in the 30′s. Maybe then big things can be done, and then the current politicians are long gone. Bye bye Bernanke.

            Shouldn’t we discuss the most ideal system for the future if such an “opportunity” occurs?

            Shouldn’t we base our money on some kind of value, such as a gold standard?

          • Ben Dyson (Positive Money)

            Hi Johan,

            It’s quite possible (even likely) that the system will only be reformed when it collapses, which could be in the next few years (it is obviously crumbling now). So we are working with that in mind. By the end of this year my colleague Drew will have finished a 4 month project to map out the transition from the current system to the proposed reformed system, so that the proposal could be implemented either via a well-managed transition, or quickly in the case of a quick collapse.

            The problem is that discussions of ‘ideal’ monetary systems become just that – idealistic. If there is a big collapse where people completely lose faith in the pound/dollar/euro, then whatever monetary system arises out of that will be completely improvised and probably far from the ideal.

            Re: gold – this seems to be a case of taking the power to create money away from the banks and giving it to the people (or countries) who are lucky enough to own goldmines. Besides, gold really is quite close to being a fiat currency. It’s only intrinsic value is its use in electronics (in small quantities), jewellery and dental fillings. The rest of its value only comes from the fact that everyone else believes that it has value and can be swapped for real things. In other words, gold gets its value in the same way that normal fiat currency does: from whether or not people are willing to swap it for something else.

          • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

            Ben, I really appreciate your work figuring out a new system. But the system you outlined seems very Keynesian, and I do not believe in Keynesian economy, do you?

            Secondly, I do not agree with your statement that gold does not have any (or slight) intrinsic value. Please do not compare a good that has been used as store of value for several thousands of years with paper money. For the time being, I think it could be used as a store of value for at least a couple of hundred years still.

            Also, I am not a perma gold bull. I just think it is one of the most obvious objective stores of value, and I think that is what people need.

      • http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/ Ralph Musgrave

        Johan, I’m all in favour of letting the free market do what it is good at. But it’s clearly not too good at giving us a stable level of aggregate demand: i.e. it gives rise to booms and busts, as Marx, Keynes and numerous other economists pointed out.

        Of course the fact that the market is defective in some respect does not prove that government will do a better job. However the severity of booms and busts seems to have moderated a bit since governments started trying to smooth out booms and busts. See here:

        http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/2011/08/economic-fluctuations-since-1870_26.html

        And this improvement has occurred despite the blunders by various governments since 1930 or thereabouts. As for the current dysfunctional economic management in the US, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. In short, things have improved, and it’s not going to take a genius to improve them still further.

        Also, as intimated above, we already have governments and central banks trying to manage aggregate demand, e.g. central banks adjust interest rates when they see fit. Thus in advocating control of aggregate demand by government / central banks, I’m not advocating anything new, nor is Positive Money. The only novelty in Positive Money / New Economic Foundation / Prof Werner submission to the Independent Banking Commission is the exact way in which aggregate demand is controlled.

        • http://johanlinden.com Johan Lindén

          Ralph, I don’t understand what you are trying to say. But I see from your blog that you are pro-keynesian view of thinking and want the government to intervent. Is that correctly?

          In that case our views are far fram each other.

  • http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Transfinancial_Economics Robert Searle

    I was very interested to see the article above by Ralph Musgrave. As some people may, or may not know I believe he is a follower so to speak of Chartalism, or what is more commonly known as Modern Monetary Theory. Essenially, it believes that governments should create their own non-repayable money. Taxation is only necessary if the amounts involved become inflationary.

    Anyway, sometime ago I joined Horwitzs Facebook page, and put a post up on Positive Money. He claimed those involved with it, and others were just “monetary cranks.” He further stated that they did not understand how money really work in the real world…or words to that effect!!! But such a claim could well be true of quite a few “respected” economists!

    • http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/ Ralph Musgrave

      Robert, Re the idea that “governments should create their own non-repayable money”, that idea is not unique to MMT. In fact it’s an idea adhered to world wide. It’s an idea in operation right now in the UK: that is, central bank money, or “monetary base” is not redeemable into anything else. It’s an idea that would continue under the sort of full reserve regime favoured by Positive Money.

      Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) is a bit like socialism, catholicism and what might be called other groups of ideas: it consists of a collection of ideas which adherents TEND to subscribe to. But individual adherents often with good reason, reject particular aspects of the “collection”.

      One aspect of MMT I like is an aspect it has in common with the Positive Money submission to the Independent Banking Commission, namely that government should simply create money and spend it in a recession (and/or cut taxes). Conversely, given excess inflation, government should do the opposite, namely rein in money via extra tax and extinguish such money.

      Re Chartalism, an important element of Chartalism is the idea that a state issued fiat currency derives its value from the fact that taxes must be paid in the state’s money: else you go to prison. And that is a very persuasive reason for keeping a stock of, and using the state’s money (rather than silver, cowrie shells or the varius other things that through history have served as money.)

      But I don’t think the “tax” point is the sole reason that fiat currencies have value. The other important reason is that people have an innate demand for money because it is so much more efficient than barter. Thus even in the absence of tax, any organisation which set up and ran a fiat currency and did so efficiently, would find the currency being accepted. Indeed that is why prior to 1844 banks in the UK could print their own £10 notes etc. Any organisation, once it is big enough and widely respected can get into the fiat money production business.

      • http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Transfinancial_Economics Robert Searle

        As you right point governments do produce new non-repayable money….but ofcourse it only makes up an almost non-existent portion of the entire money supply. The problem with MMT would appear to be the following if there were attempts to try, and introduce it.I have some questions/comments. Your expert feedback would be greatly welcomed.

        i) The Bond Market would resist moves to try to have its power wiped out, or indeed, limited.

        ii) The American Congress, and the public would probably reject MMT as it would give far greater power to “big dumb government.” Moreover, free marketeers hate top-down intervenionism.

        iii) How does the work of Abba Lerner, and his Functional Finance differ from Chartalism, and MMT? I cannot at present get much sense from the internet on this matter.

        I would be very interested in your comments.

        • http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/ Ralph Musgrave

          Robert, You are right: the bond market wouldn’t like it because it would mean a reduced role for bonds or a complete end to bonds! Milton Friedman advocated a “no bond” monetary system, so the “no bonds” idea is not an idea that is backed just by cranks. For Friedman, see page 250 here: http://nb.vse.cz/~BARTONP/mae911/friedman.pdf

          As to what the logic is on government borrowing, I am totally baffled. So far as borrowing for stimulus purposes goes, what on earth is the point in a government borrowing money when it can print any amount of money any time at no cost? It’s as daft as a dairy farmer buying milk in a shop when there is a thousand gallon tank of milk outside the farmer’s back door.

          As to other alleged reasons for government borrowing, I run through these here and demolish them: http://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/23785/

          Re your second point, MMT might well have more of a problem in the US than elsewhere. However, the Fed, like every other central bank, already has a big say in how much stimulus or “anti-inflationary, anti-stimulatory” medecine the economy should get. So to that extent MMT would involve no change to the amount of “top down interventionism”

          As distinct from the Fed, Congress also has a say in how much stimulus should be applied, and as you rightly imply, Congress will not give up its powers easily. However, we should rememember that 95% of members of Congress, like the equivalent bodies in other countries, have not got past page one of an introductory economics text book. For a bunch of people like that to decide in whether inflation is subdued enough to warrant stimulus is like asking a building site labourer to do brian surgery with a shovel. In fact the current shinanigans in Congress over the debt and deficit are as distressing to watch as watching a labourer doing brain survery with a shovel!

          The fact that politicians are unqualified to take the above decision is becoming widely accepted nowadays, even in the US, in that various fiscal responsibility committees are springing up. There is one in the US, but I’ve forgotten its name. So to that extent there might be fewer objections to top down interventionism than you suggest.

          Re Lerner and functional finance, this is a good introduction, written by Lerner: http://k.web.umkc.edu/keltons/Papers/501/functional%20finance.pdf

          I don’t agree with every detail, but I agree with the basic thrust of what he says.

          These the blogs of three of the more influential MMTers.

          http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/
          http://moslereconomics.com/
          http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/

        • http://ralphanomics.blogspot.com/ Ralph Musgrave

          There is an interesting post from a US based MMT blogger here:

          http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/how-about-socialized-banking/comment-page-1/#comment-6698

          He advocates the abolition of private banks. That idea is not a 100 miles from abolishing fractional reserve, as I point out in a comment I’ve just sent.

          Plus the initial comments after the post are from an “F.Beard” who is obviously thinking very much along Positive Money lines.

          • http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Transfinancial_Economics Robert Searle

            Ralph,

            I look forward to your response on my three “questions”. Sorry for the lack of editing in the text. I get so busy…probably like yourself…and hey presto, I press the button, and my “work” enters the public arena….without an editing button which would have been helpful!!!

          • http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Transfinancial_Economics Robert Searle

            Ralph,

            Thank you very much for detailed response as we help me with my project into monetary reform.

            Yes, you are quite right….governments do not need to issue bonds when they can create new money themselves. The whole thing is absurd…

            …And yes, Central Banks are arguably far too cautious about creating too much “stimulus.”

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